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Caleb Ayrania
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Posted - 2010.09.04 12:26:00 -
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I guess there is a price on everyone.. The trustworthy people are becoming a seriously rare thing in this game..
In part I blame the missing mechanics.
On a day like this I like my TMPI shares a lot.. They already paid out more dividends then their initial value, so I guess that makes it a true AAA share..
I dont think this is the end of the MD, but it does mean there is a serious dip in trust and interest in future projects..
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Caleb Ayrania
Gallente TarNec manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.09.04 12:56:00 -
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I have to side with VV..
Sure EVE is just a game, but seriously there will always be people ingame that know who you are in RL, and what you did. Sure these might be close enough to not "rat" on you.. but seriously.. You have to live with this stigma the rest of your life..
Would anyone here ever trust someone with an action like this in their past?
I have experienced first hand how your view change once a friend shows this side of their personality..
I dont understand why people sell their morales for isk or RL money.. Not that I dont understand the greed and lure, just the blemish you have to carry is not worth it imo..
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Caleb Ayrania
Gallente TarNec manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.09.04 17:27:00 -
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The ironies are just stacking up..
RL finacial failures. System collapsing..
CCP Trailer launch coinciding w BBs scam.
If things werent so tragic in nature it would be great entertainment..
@BB I think the hard mode you should consider was doing something similar in RL.. then at least people cant diminish the action with it being only internet pixels..
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Caleb Ayrania
Gallente TarNec manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.09.04 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ambo *facepalm*
Never invested in this cos too many things were slightly wrong.
Would never have imagined the 'trustees' could have got it so terribly wrong though.
A bit of food for thought..
Personal relations and contribution to the game experience seem to be the only real "TRUST" makers..
The only way EVE players can show their intentions is what they are putting on the table. In short what are they risking and what are they potentially loosing.
What would people like Ambo here loose if he did something like that.. The legitemacy of all the work he put in his "product". Same goes for all other types of content creators. People like Chribba, even Shar Tegral imho (grumpy gamer factor aside). My point is it all comes down to integrity. Just like in real life the value is not just in the numbers of a business, its more and mainly in the composition of people and the "reputation/brand values"..
Sure some can laugh these things off as "just a game", and pixels have no karma, but really its all the same. As Cista pointed out in quite harsh tones if you can do and act in these ways in a game, chances are you will be able to in real life and vice versa..
I dont really care much about what BB did, the guilt is with the investors for disregarding the warning signs, and not knowing the difference betwen trustworthy people and legit businesses..
I have claimed earlier that if people arent willing to come out from hiding behind the interwebs I personally dont trust them, and even then its not safe. I met many EVE players I would not hesitate investing my trust in. In the future if MD has any that might become more a rule of thumb. This is not about "I know where you live" it more about if it needs a mask its most likely hiding something..
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Caleb Ayrania
Gallente TarNec manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.09.07 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: cosmoray I am calling BS on the people who say that scammers in Eve are somewhat dishonest in RL, or certainly that is being implied here.
There are no rules preventing scamming in Eve. It is not against the EULA. Perhaps people might like to commit crimes in the fantsay world which they wouldn't do in RL. It's part of a GAME, it is not neccesarily some indictment on the character.
Too many people need to get off their high horses that they have the same morales in RL as in Eve or that they don't lie in RL or bluff in RL.
I have lied and bluffed my bosses at work for a bigger pay rise. Am I bad person, well I couldn't care what people think as I have more money coming into my house for me and my wife. Anyone who says they would never lie/bluff to better their lives or who have never lied, I will show you someone who is a liar.
Its ironic that if you google "fantasy escalation" it seems its just "a game".. but add psychology and some interesting facts emerge..
There is a big difference between small socially functional borderline fantasy, and the big ones..
I have seen how some types seems to slip down into more and more sociopathic behaviour, sure its not everyone that is at risk, but the high horse statements are just as natural as a protective/precaution behaviour, as its opposite.. Game theory 101 imho..
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